Episode 177

Burnout: How to Recognize, Prevent, and Bounce Back Stronger

In Episode 177 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly takes a deep dive into the realities of burnout, a common but often overlooked challenge among high-performing individuals. He explores the different types of burnout—overload, under-challenge, and neglect—discussing how each impacts professionals mentally and physically. With insights from personal experience and research from Prevention.com, Kelly shares the warning signs of burnout, such as constant headaches, irritability, and neglect of personal needs. He highlights that burnout rarely stems from a single issue, instead often developing from the combination of relentless work stress and personal challenges.

Kelly also provides actionable steps to prevent and recover from burnout, emphasizing the importance of self-care, boundary-setting, and regular mental check-ins. He discusses the value of taking time away, reconnecting with personal passions, and maintaining supportive relationships to help reset and recharge. As a work-from-home entrepreneur himself, Kelly shares how he manages burnout by stepping back, making time for family, and even taking weekend getaways to restore balance. This episode offers a compassionate and realistic approach for anyone looking to maintain long-term resilience in their career and life.

Key Takeaways:

1. Recognize burnout early by identifying symptoms like persistent headaches, irritability, and neglect of personal needs.

2. Burnout often arises from a mix of relentless work stress and personal challenges, not just one source.

3. Setting boundaries and learning to say no can prevent overload and help maintain balance.

4. Taking short breaks or weekend getaways can help reset mental health and restore energy.

5. Reconnect with personal passions and hobbies to re-ignite joy and motivation outside of work.

6. Regular check-ins with yourself and close contacts can help gauge mental well-being.

7. Establish daily routines, including adequate sleep, exercise, and consistent meals, to support mental and physical health.

8. Supportive relationships are essential; venting to trusted friends, family, or professionals can relieve stress.

9. High-performing individuals often walk a fine line with burnout, so proactive self-care is critical.

10. If burnout escalates into depression, seek professional help—therapy and mental health support are valuable and effective.

Links referenced in this episode:

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • Capital Business Development
  • prevention.com
  • Jade Integrative Counseling and Wellness

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Transcript
Kelly Kennedy:

Welcome to episode 177 of the Business Development podcast.

Kelly Kennedy:

And are you experiencing burnout?

Kelly Kennedy:

Today we're chatting all about burnout, the causes of it, the prevention of it, and how the heck can we find our way back?

Kelly Kennedy:

Because if you are like me, you walk the line on a regular basis.

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Stick with us.

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Welcome to the Business Development podcast.

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And now your expert host, Kelly Kennedy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Hello.

Kelly Kennedy:

Welcome to episode 177 of the Business development podcast.

Kelly Kennedy:

My gosh, 177 episodes.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, it is an absolute honor to be on here with you today.

Kelly Kennedy:

Today I wanted to spend some time chatting about burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Burnout is something that we have not really touched on much on the show.

Kelly Kennedy:

But you know what?

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Mental health is important.

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And burnout is something we absolutely, absolutely have to talk about.

Kelly Kennedy:

As high performance individuals.

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As someone who has come close to hitting the wall myself, I know how absolutely critical burnout is.

Kelly Kennedy:

And the cool thing is, today, guys, we are going to normalize it.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you experience burnout, you're going to see real quick that a lot of us are experiencing burnout or coming close to it, and maybe not even realizing what is happening.

Kelly Kennedy:

So today, we're going to chat about burnout.

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We're going to chat about the power of a reset, and we are going to list off some of the symptoms you may encounter and some of the ways to find your way back to peace and success.

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This is going to be an awesome episode and I cannot, cannot, cannot wait to do it with you.

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All right, let's just get into it.

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Are you hitting a wall?

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It happens to all of us eventually.

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Burnout can creep up and bite us when we least expect it.

Kelly Kennedy:

But before we can chat about how to solve burnout and what the solutions may be, we have to understand what burnout is.

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And so I want to spend some time today, guys, just going over burnout.

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What are some of the signs?

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What is the definition for it?

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And let's figure out how the heck to find our way back when we inevitably hit the wall.

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What is burnout?

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And guys, a lot of the information that I took today came from prevention.com.

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i am not a mental health expert.

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I am an experiencer of burnout, just like many, many of you.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so I went to the Internet to find some of the experts, and almost all of the show's information today, guys, came from prevention.com dot.

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What is burnout?

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Burnout is a form of exhaustion that occurs when we feel overwhelmed and unable to maintain adequate balance.

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It can happen to anyone who experiences prolonged emotional, physical, or mental stress.

Kelly Kennedy:

Burnout is happening to us, guys, whenever we are experiencing prolonged emotional, physical, or mental stress.

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You know, if you're an entrepreneur, if you're a high performance individual.

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This can onset really rapidly because we are pretty consistently experiencing prolonged emotional, physical and mental stress.

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And one of the challenges is, is that usually it's a bit lopsided.

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So we could be having a really tough time at work, working really, really hard, putting in all the hours, and then we have a challenge at home, a challenge with our kids or something along those lines, or, you know, a real life family event, you know, maybe a medical event or something like that in a friend or a family member that can really throw this thing over the edge, can push just that little bit further to throw our balance off.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, guys, that's how it happens.

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Burnout doesn't typically happen from one thing.

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It's not typically one thing you working really, really, really hard.

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It's you working really, really, really hard to exhaustion nearly.

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And then something else happens that can set this off.

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This can happen in the form of a fight at home.

Kelly Kennedy:

This can happen at the form of, you know, an argument with a child, an argument with a wife.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, it can happen with, you know, maybe things are really on the rocks at home, and then something big happens at work that throws you off.

Kelly Kennedy:

So it can be a combination of multiple mental factors, guys, it is not just one thing.

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It typically is a combination of multiple things.

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But we're pushing it a little too hard in one of the areas, and it becomes impossible to balance the mental load.

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There are three types of burnout.

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The first type is called overload.

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This is when your drive and effort to achieve creates an unsustainable pace and disregards your personal life.

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This is probably one of the most common forms of burnout for high performance individuals.

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I think for me, this is actually one of the ones that I have struggled with because I'll be working, working, trying to drive, create success, and then I get super unbalanced with, you know, my family life, with my, my relationship with, you know, being a parent, um, with being a friend.

Kelly Kennedy:

There's just a thousand things that start to feel really off balance.

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This can even be, like, where you start to feel like you're not looking after yourself, where you're working so hard, and you're like, oh, where am I?

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Like, I'm losing myself.

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This is overload burnout.

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And I think this is probably the most common form of burnout that I have run into, and I think likely most high performance individuals and entrepreneurs, this is probably what you guys are running into as well.

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The next type is called under challenge, and this is where you feel unfulfilled, view your role as monotonous or have become disconnected from your passion.

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So this is my, like, long time employee who's been doing a job for a really, really long time.

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You might be a total rock star at it, but you're no longer feeling challenged.

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You haven't been able to, like, work your way up, or you haven't been moving.

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You're feeling stagnant.

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This is under challenged burnout.

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And I have experienced this when I was an employee where it was like, I knew what I needed to do.

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I was no longer challenged, and I started to become very disenchanted with the position.

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This is an under challenge burnout.

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I think most of us, probably one time or another, have experienced this one as well.

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And you start to just feel dull.

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You start to feel bored.

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You start to feel just disconnected from yourself, disconnected from happiness and fun.

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And that can happen when you are under challenged.

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The last one, guys, is called neglect.

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Neglect is when you feel helpless, frustrated, and unable to find solutions to difficult and stressful situations.

Kelly Kennedy:

This one I have not experienced, but it sounds absolutely horrible.

Kelly Kennedy:

This one sounds like it comes from a scenario where you feel completely out of control.

Kelly Kennedy:

You cannot change anything that's happened, and you just are trying to deal.

Kelly Kennedy:

This is neglect level.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, guys, I haven't experienced this.

Kelly Kennedy:

And if you have, I'm terribly sorry for you, but this particular one seems much worse than the others.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so I think maybe, you know, we'll get into it later, but I think maybe if you're in the neglect stage of burnouth, we need some additional supports.

Kelly Kennedy:

We need some additional help.

Kelly Kennedy:

Burnout can show up in many different ways, and some symptoms are easier to spot than others.

Kelly Kennedy:

Here are some of the physical symptoms to watch for, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I found this really interesting because I've experienced a lot of these symptoms in the time of me being an entrepreneur and even running this show.

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The first one, guys, is constant headaches.

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If you're getting headaches more often than not one, you might need some more water.

Kelly Kennedy:

I know that's me most of the time, but if you're having headaches a lot, this can actually be a symptom of burnout.

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Appetite changes.

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Whether you're eating more, more unhealthy, or maybe you're eating less, maybe you're just.

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You're working so hard, you're not even eating.

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This can also be one of the options.

Kelly Kennedy:

One here that I found that was super interesting was digestive issues.

Kelly Kennedy:

So, uh, your gut not feeling super great?

Kelly Kennedy:

This has happened to me, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, digestive issues can be a sign of burnout, difficulty staying present in conversation.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I have struggled with this one before, guys, where you're thinking, like, okay, it's really great to hear what you're doing, but I have a thousand things to do, and now I need to go.

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Literally, your mind is elsewhere when you're having important conversations.

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This can be with loved ones, with colleagues, with friends.

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Whatever it be, your mind is somewhere else.

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And this can also be a physical symptom of burnout.

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If you guys are having difficulty sleeping.

Kelly Kennedy:

Yes.

Kelly Kennedy:

Two hands way up.

Kelly Kennedy:

I never have trouble getting to sleep, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm a weird, difficult sleeper.

Kelly Kennedy:

I never have trouble getting to sleep, but I wake up frequently in the night.

Kelly Kennedy:

That has happened to me, you know, since I've become a dad, which, you know, whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

I think that probably happens to most of us parents, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

It is what it is, but it is definitely happened to me more frequently in the last year, and I was not aware that that was a symptom of burnout, but it is.

Kelly Kennedy:

Is chronic illness, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, you know, like, I don't want to target chronic illness.

Kelly Kennedy:

Most of us, I think, have dealt with an illness at some point or another.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I don't think all chronic illness is tied to burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

However, chronic illness can be a physical symptom of burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Let's talk about the mental symptoms, because I think mental symptoms is ones that we actually notice.

Kelly Kennedy:

I know that I have, like, experienced a lot of these.

Kelly Kennedy:

It was funny.

Kelly Kennedy:

While I was.

Kelly Kennedy:

Well, I was doing the show notes for this episode, I was talking to Shelby, and I was like, oh, crap.

Kelly Kennedy:

I think I've experienced nearly all of these options on the mental symptoms list.

Kelly Kennedy:

Uh, even recently, she just kind of looked at me and smiled.

Kelly Kennedy:

But, yeah, it.

Kelly Kennedy:

You know, I think most of us, as entrepreneurs, as high performance individuals, which I know all of you are, you are not listening to this show if you are not a high performance individual.

Kelly Kennedy:

This is not the kind of show that slackers and people that don't care listen to.

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This is the kind of show that you guys listen to.

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My rock stars, my high performance individuals who are trying to really up their game.

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This is for you.

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And I can almost guarantee you.

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I don't want to scare you, but I can almost guarantee you that if you're listening to this, you have very likely experienced one or more of these symptoms.

Kelly Kennedy:

Heck, maybe even in the last month, maybe even today.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is one of those things that kind of shocked me.

Kelly Kennedy:

But the mental symptoms of burnout include overworking, guilty, neglecting personal needs, guilty.

Kelly Kennedy:

This includes guys like not eating healthy, skipping breakfast, skipping the important things you need to do.

Kelly Kennedy:

Uh, you know, spending time with friends, with family, getting away, getting away from work, from life, going to the gym, looking after yourself mentally.

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Maybe that's meditating.

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Maybe that's doing whatever gets you into your Zen space.

Kelly Kennedy:

This is one of those things, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

Neglecting personal needs is a major red flag of burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

I wouldn't have called that at all, but it is.

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Anxiety, guys.

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Low level anxiety.

Kelly Kennedy:

I pretty much live with low level anxiety.

Kelly Kennedy:

I feel like that's kind of where I've been for quite a while.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, it's never, like, too bad, but I can always just feel, like, a little bit of worry.

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And half the time, I'm not really sure what I'm worrying about.

Kelly Kennedy:

But I think most of us, as entrepreneurs, as business owners, as high performance individuals who want to perform well and do great things, I think we're all struggling with a little bit of low level anxiety.

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And anxiety, guys, can be a red flag of burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Irritability, um, irritability is a tough one, because, you know, as a parent or as.

Kelly Kennedy:

As a partner, or as anybody who has struggled, um, trying to coexist with people, irritability happens to the best of us.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I don't necessarily think that you being irritable is necessarily means that you're burned out, but it can definitely mean that maybe something is a little bit out of balance.

Kelly Kennedy:

So irritability can be one of the symptoms, a sense of emptiness or hopelessness.

Kelly Kennedy:

This one really hit me, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

To me, that almost sounds like we're heading a bit towards depression, and I was kind of surprised, but it looks like a lot of these mental symptoms, they also can be the same symptoms that you run into if you're dealing with depression or something along those lines.

Kelly Kennedy:

So it's something to watch out for.

Kelly Kennedy:

Imposter syndrome, we've talked about that on this show, imposter syndrome, which is a persistent fear of inadequacy and a fear that you can't meet the standards that you feel have been set for you.

Kelly Kennedy:

My gosh.

Kelly Kennedy:

As entrepreneurs, we struggle with imposter syndrome as high performance individuals, as business development specialists, we struggle with imposter syndrome at times.

Kelly Kennedy:

I've experienced imposter syndrome as a podcaster, as a business development specialist, as a coach, you name it, I have experienced it.

Kelly Kennedy:

It happens to each and every one of us.

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It is a normal part of life.

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However, also can be a sign of burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys can be a mental symptom of burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Let's talk about what can cause burnout, because I think maybe if we can better understand what is causing burnout, what is causing us this struggle, if we can better understand that, we can maybe find ways to negate it or to not take on the things that could lead us down that path.

Kelly Kennedy:

Right.

Kelly Kennedy:

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, always, no matter what.

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Let's chat a little bit about what can cause burnout and see if we can't alleviate some of these things over commitment.

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Guys biting off more than we can chew.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, you know, I'm guilty for this.

Kelly Kennedy:

I know a lot of you guys are guilty for this.

Kelly Kennedy:

This happens as I feel like, as entrepreneurs, as humans, as people who want to perform well, we regularly take on more than we can chew.

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And this could be like, not even just in business.

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This can be in life.

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This can be in committing to our kids, sports.

Kelly Kennedy:

This can be in committing to, I don't know, something personal for us, whatever that be.

Kelly Kennedy:

But over commitment is a real thing, and we can start to feel very burned out because we are just pushing ourselves, pushing ourselves, pushing ourselves and holding ourselves to a standard that is maybe nearly impossible to achieve on a full, consistent basis.

Kelly Kennedy:

So commitment can be a challenge.

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Feeling overextended, I think that really fits right into over commitment.

Kelly Kennedy:

I kind of see that as the same thing.

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Having a difficult time saying no or lacking boundaries.

Kelly Kennedy:

Now, this can happen, obviously, when we're being asked to do more and more and more at work, whether that be a client, asking for more, whether that be we're high performance at work, and we keep getting overloaded with more tasks.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to be able to understand what is going to push us too far.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so a lack of personal boundaries, being afraid to say, no, no more.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to do better at that.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to know how much is too much and push back when we are being asked to do more than we are capable of handling in a moment, does that mean that you will never be capable of handling more?

Kelly Kennedy:

No.

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We all have moments where we have to say, not right now.

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I can't do this right now.

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It does not mean that you cannot take on more, ever.

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It means understanding what is too much for you in a moment.

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What is too much for you based on your life today.

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Your life today might be completely different than what your life is six months from now.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so it's important to recognize what is going to be too much and say, I can't take this on at the moment, being in highly demanding environments.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, yeah, that's that's a tough one, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

I think most people, if you're listening to the show, you probably find yourself regularly in a highly demanding environment.

Kelly Kennedy:

Once again, I think it comes down to personal boundaries and being able to understand what is definitely too much for you and hopefully trying to head that off before it happens.

Kelly Kennedy:

I think most of us, we find out we've taken on too much well after we've taken it on.

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But if you have the wherewithal and the knowledge to be able to say, you know what, I think right now I can't take on that extra work.

Kelly Kennedy:

That's going to be your best option here.

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Sustained avoidance of personal needs, both mental and physical.

Kelly Kennedy:

Yeah, I get it, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

I get it.

Kelly Kennedy:

This definitely happens when we are working really, really hard on a project, on building something, a company, a podcast, things along those lines.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's very, very easy to focus so heavily on that one thing we're trying to do that we start to neglect our eating, our workouts, our mental health, our families, everything, the things we love.

Kelly Kennedy:

Even when you are really, really committed to a project, what actually starts to happen is all you start to care about is that project is building that thing.

Kelly Kennedy:

You can even find yourself not wanting to do the enjoyable things you used to love to do because they start to feel like a waste of time.

Kelly Kennedy:

That has happened to me over and over and over again.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's something that I struggle with and I have to, like, pull myself back and recognize, like, no, Kelly, you have to look after you.

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to remember why you went down this path, which was to enjoy your life, have fun, make an adventure, have an adventure, be a great parent.

Kelly Kennedy:

Like, it's easy to get stuck trying to do this one amazing thing and completely neglect everything else around you, and that will 100% eventually catch up and put you in trouble.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so it's absolutely important to take care of your personal needs.

Kelly Kennedy:

And if you are seeing yourself in a sustained avoidance of doing that, you could be experiencing burnout or on the way to it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Excessive work hours, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

So not having enough time to enjoy time away from work can lead you to burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Even if what your passion is, is work.

Kelly Kennedy:

At some point you will start to feel a dysregulation between the amount of time you're working and the time that you were supposed to be having fun.

Kelly Kennedy:

You'll like, remember that the whole point of working so hard was so that you could do more things, were so that you could enjoy your life more, not work more.

Kelly Kennedy:

And eventually that imbalance of free fun enjoyment time and work time is going to throw you into a spiral, and so excessive work hours can do it, too.

Kelly Kennedy:

Lack of supportive relationships, guys, the power of relationships, we talk about it on the show all the time.

Kelly Kennedy:

The power of relationships is palpable.

Kelly Kennedy:

I can't tell you how many times I'm having a really challenging day, and I can either reach out and talk to a friend, or I can reach out and talk to Shelby, or I can reach out and talk to a family member or a peer of some type and just, like, vent a little bit and chat and talk about their challenges and talk about my challenges, and, man, I feel like a million bucks after.

Kelly Kennedy:

But if you don't have that weight event and you're constantly dealing with the stress of life, you're internalizing that entire thing.

Kelly Kennedy:

Eventually, that can put you in some serious trouble.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so if you don't have somebody to talk to, there's a couple different options for you.

Kelly Kennedy:

Maybe therapy would be an option, finding a way to connect as part of a support group or joining a business community, like your local chamber, which is always incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find a way to meet some peers, some people that you can talk to, some supports that you can chat about life, because being an entrepreneur is hard.

Kelly Kennedy:

Being an entrepreneur alone is almost impossible.

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Toxicity.

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Whether that be bosses at work, colleagues, negative friends, negative peers, whatever it is.

Kelly Kennedy:

Toxicity, people, always negative people ragging on you and keeping you down.

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That is going to take its toll on us long term.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so we have to have, you have to support ourselves with positive, incredible people who will lift us up, not the people who will tear us down.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to try to avoid negative toxicity.

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Toxic people who will drag us down with them.

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Guys.

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But toxic bosses, colleagues, friends, family members, whatever it is going to negatively impact our mental health.

Kelly Kennedy:

Financial stress, family stress, and illness.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, these are all struggles, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

Financial stress is some of the worst stress known to man.

Kelly Kennedy:

I feel like I have definitely been in financial stress.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm sure most of you at some point have been in financial stress.

Kelly Kennedy:

Financial stress can eat at us.

Kelly Kennedy:

What are some of the things we can do?

Kelly Kennedy:

It's building a little bit of a nest egg.

Kelly Kennedy:

Always having a parachute.

Kelly Kennedy:

Looking after our financial well being is just about as good as looking after our mental well being.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is absolutely critical that we are looking after both our financial well being and our mental wellbeing at the same time.

Kelly Kennedy:

And they are interlinked.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to look after our financial stress, family stress, hard to avoid guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

We all have families.

Kelly Kennedy:

We all have good days, bad days, health challenges.

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You name it, um.

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We're all humans.

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We're all dealing with that world.

Kelly Kennedy:

And family stress is one that, uh, you know, we have to do our best with, but it's not really always in our control.

Kelly Kennedy:

And illness, guys, illness.

Kelly Kennedy:

Illness is horrible.

Kelly Kennedy:

Illness happens to many of us, unfortunately.

Kelly Kennedy:

But I'll tell you what.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you can find ways to de stress, if you can find yourself not in burnout situations, burnout is going to lead you to illness.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to find ways to come back from it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

My gosh.

Kelly Kennedy:

We've been talking about the tragic challenges that is burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

But.

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But let's talk a little bit about how we recover.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, okay, this one is.

Kelly Kennedy:

This one is close to home, guys, if you've been listening, you know that a couple weeks ago, it was a Friday afternoon, and I was finishing up production.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'd recorded two shows that day.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was finishing up my production, and I turned and looked at Shelby, and I'm like, I need to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm not special, but I feel like I have a really good handle on when I'm hitting a wall.

Kelly Kennedy:

When I'm really hitting a wall, it takes a lot for me to get there.

Kelly Kennedy:

Two weeks ago, I hit the wall, and I think that's why this particular episode is just feeling so relevant for me right now, because I hit it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I hit the wall.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was like, I'm.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm nearing burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

I need to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, guys, I work from home.

Kelly Kennedy:

I know a lot of you also work from home.

Kelly Kennedy:

Working from home is incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I love working from home.

Kelly Kennedy:

I didn't at first.

Kelly Kennedy:

It took me a long time to get used to working from home.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so if you struggle with working from home, me too.

Kelly Kennedy:

Hands way up.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm way better at it now.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm really excellent at it now, unfortunately, probably too good, which is why I had to run.

Kelly Kennedy:

But the problem with working from home is this.

Kelly Kennedy:

When you work from home and you get off work, you're done for the day.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is very, very hard for me to completely disconnect from work.

Kelly Kennedy:

Why?

Kelly Kennedy:

Because everywhere I look, I'm doing those things when I'm at work, because I'm around my house, I'm grabbing coffees.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm.

Kelly Kennedy:

Whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

Working in the office, whatever it is, it's a workspace.

Kelly Kennedy:

For me, home has kind of, unfortunately, become a workspace.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so every once in a while, I, like, hit this space where I'm like, okay, I have to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

And it's not just get out of the house.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's like, I need to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

I literally, I looked at Shelby.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm like, we need to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I was like, we need to go.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I was like, we either need to go to Banff, Jasper, Saskatoon, to visit her family, Calgary, whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

I just needed to get away from Edmonton, from my house.

Kelly Kennedy:

Like, for me to truly disconnect, sometimes I actually have to leave.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so, like, one of the tidbits of information I wanted to give to my work, from home people, and maybe this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Maybe this doesn't just apply to work from home.

Kelly Kennedy:

Maybe this just applies to anybody who's hitting a wall.

Kelly Kennedy:

Sometimes straight up just getting away, getting completely out of the scenario and area that you work in or that things are happening to you in.

Kelly Kennedy:

It can be the reset that you needed.

Kelly Kennedy:

And this is.

Kelly Kennedy:

This is a little bit off tangent.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're going to get back to steps to recover from burnout, but I wanted to speak to my own experience on this because for me, every once in a while, I have to just jettison myself.

Kelly Kennedy:

I have to hit the eject button from my life.

Kelly Kennedy:

And in this particular case, Shelby's parents ended up taking the kids, which was incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

So we actually got a weekend away, just me, her, and our baby.

Kelly Kennedy:

And that was really nice.

Kelly Kennedy:

It was quiet, and, you know, I mean, if you're a parent, you get it.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's loud.

Kelly Kennedy:

There's stuff going on.

Kelly Kennedy:

Sometimes, even when you're away, it's not really a break.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, if you can get some babysitting or something, it can be nice for just you and your significant other.

Kelly Kennedy:

Or if you're single, maybe just you to be able to take that break away from your life alone.

Kelly Kennedy:

But if you have kids, whatever, bring them.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's all good.

Kelly Kennedy:

We bring our kids on adventures, too, but sometimes it's nice to just have that adventure alone.

Kelly Kennedy:

And in this particular case, I got it.

Kelly Kennedy:

It was exactly what I needed.

Kelly Kennedy:

We got away to Saskatoon.

Kelly Kennedy:

We visited family.

Kelly Kennedy:

Just two days away was enough to just reset everything for me.

Kelly Kennedy:

I came back feeling like a million dollars.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, uh, this can maybe be a solution for some of you who are really getting close to that wall right now.

Kelly Kennedy:

It happens, and sometimes just a day or two away is all you need to get that recharge and reset.

Kelly Kennedy:

Just for the record as well.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, when I did this, um, I left my phone in the hotel room.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was not really checking email.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was not really checking socials.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was gone.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was disconnected.

Kelly Kennedy:

I needed to just reconnect.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, with Shelby, with my baby, with myself.

Kelly Kennedy:

Right.

Kelly Kennedy:

And this may be you.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you find that you're coming close and hitting the wall, try it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Try a weekend away in the next town, in the next province, in the next state, whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

Just get away from your life for a couple days, reset, rest, find yourself, and come back more collected than ever.

Kelly Kennedy:

I had a great week after that.

Kelly Kennedy:

Things went awesome.

Kelly Kennedy:

I just needed that break.

Kelly Kennedy:

That can be a solution for you.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

Sorry.

Kelly Kennedy:

That was a tangent.

Kelly Kennedy:

I kind of went off on my own.

Kelly Kennedy:

But let's see what the experts recommend.

Kelly Kennedy:

Steps to recover from burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Step one.

Kelly Kennedy:

Recognize the burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

We cannot address burnout if we refuse to acknowledge that we're in it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

So it's like anything.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's like, if you're an addict, you have to acknowledge that you're an addict.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you're in burnout, you have to say, huh, I think I'm in burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

If we can get to the point where we can say, I think I'm burning out, or I'm hitting the wall, or I'm getting real close.

Kelly Kennedy:

If we can recognize it and acknowledge it, then we can take it to the next steps.

Kelly Kennedy:

What are some of the ways that you can use to recognize the burnout?

Kelly Kennedy:

First off, you're a smart person.

Kelly Kennedy:

You know your body and yourself better than anybody else on planet Earth.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask yourself how you are doing and give yourself an honest answer.

Kelly Kennedy:

A check in, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

A check in.

Kelly Kennedy:

How am I doing?

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm not feeling super great right now.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm feeling anxious.

Kelly Kennedy:

Could this be burnout?

Kelly Kennedy:

Yeah, I think I'm in burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

If we can get to that stage, the next steps will happen.

Kelly Kennedy:

Some of the other ways that you can do it is this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask yourself, are you having more bad days than good days?

Kelly Kennedy:

If the answer is yes to too many bad days, you are likely experiencing maybe burnout, maybe depression.

Kelly Kennedy:

But either way, it's something that you should address.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay, we have to acknowledge we're experiencing something the last way here, guys, that they recommend, and this is a good one.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask somebody you know.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask your significant other.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask your kids.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask a coworker.

Kelly Kennedy:

Ask someone you love and trust.

Kelly Kennedy:

Do they recognize potential burnout in you?

Kelly Kennedy:

Just say, hey, you know, do I seem okay to you?

Kelly Kennedy:

Is everything all right?

Kelly Kennedy:

Or am I seeming like a little down, a little off?

Kelly Kennedy:

And hear what they have to say and take from there whatever they say, and try to apply it to your own feelings about your situation and then say, am I in burnout?

Kelly Kennedy:

It's really?

Kelly Kennedy:

A yes or no, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

Am I hitting the wall or am I not?

Kelly Kennedy:

But you can recognize it.

Kelly Kennedy:

And recognizing that you are in burnout is the first step to solving burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

The next one.

Kelly Kennedy:

Step two is to establish daily routines.

Kelly Kennedy:

Now, this isn't necessarily guys, for people that are hitting the wall, okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

This is a bit of a tough one.

Kelly Kennedy:

Step two in this list isn't recovery.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's prevention.

Kelly Kennedy:

So, let's assume that I'm getting you today and you're not in burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

But maybe you've been close.

Kelly Kennedy:

Maybe you have been feeling some of these symptoms.

Kelly Kennedy:

You're feeling a little anxious.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, you might be feeling a little bit of imposter syndrome.

Kelly Kennedy:

You're struggling a little bit to stay motivated, to stay happy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Whatever it is, you're not there.

Kelly Kennedy:

But maybe you're walking the line, okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

And I think a lot of us are walking the line because not all of us are living our best lives all the time.

Kelly Kennedy:

So, here's the thing.

Kelly Kennedy:

Step two is to establish daily routines, okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

So, what are some of the things that we can look at to help us adequate sleep hygiene?

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, um, one of the things that I can recommend to you, and I fought this tooth and nail.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm going to be straight with you guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

I fought it tooth and nail.

Kelly Kennedy:

It was taking the tv out of our bedroom.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

I was a bedroom tv person since I was seven years old.

Kelly Kennedy:

I I've had a tv in my room as long as I've been alive, except for this year.

Kelly Kennedy:

And Shelby convinced me to take the tv out of our bedroom, and I fought her on it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I didn't want to do it.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, guys, it has been incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, it has been incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's probably one of the best things you can do for yourselves.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I hate to admit it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I hate to admit it because I love tv in our bedrooms.

Kelly Kennedy:

What we've done instead is we'll bring a laptop in on occasion, and we'll watch a show in bed on the laptop.

Kelly Kennedy:

But we do not have a full time tv in our room, and my sleep has 100% improved from this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Another thing about sleep hygiene is try to get into bed about an hour before you want to go to sleep.

Kelly Kennedy:

Why?

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to start winding down.

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to start getting your body used to getting to bed at a certain time, because if you're like me, it can take a little while to wind down.

Kelly Kennedy:

o be in bed by, like, nine or:

Kelly Kennedy:

The other thing is your blue light filters on your phones.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, if you're like me, you're on your phones a lot.

Kelly Kennedy:

The blue light filter on your phone is a great thing to turn on or to have turn on at a certain time.

Kelly Kennedy:

oes into sleep mode at around:

Kelly Kennedy:

Goes black and white, which helps me kind of regulate.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, uh.

Kelly Kennedy:

And bring that blue light down.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay, the next one, guys, is exercise.

Kelly Kennedy:

Super guilty.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I used to be an avid exerciser, and you know what?

Kelly Kennedy:

I think I'm going to get back into it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I really am.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm not just bullshitting.

Kelly Kennedy:

I promise I'm working on it.

Kelly Kennedy:

But exercise is absolutely mandatory because we can't be fit mentally.

Kelly Kennedy:

If we are not fit physically, it's very hard to have both.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're living in the same body.

Kelly Kennedy:

Our brain exists in the same body.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so if we are not handling our.

Kelly Kennedy:

Our exercise to keep our physical bodies healthy, it's very hard to be performing at a top mental level as well.

Kelly Kennedy:

They are linked.

Kelly Kennedy:

So, you know, finding a way to incorporate exercise into your day.

Kelly Kennedy:

Me and Shelby right now, you know, with the baby, I try to get out for, like, a walk, a big, long walk every day.

Kelly Kennedy:

We do about, like, a two or three kilometer walk or so every single day.

Kelly Kennedy:

That has absolutely become a part of my daily routine.

Kelly Kennedy:

But, you know, find out what works for you.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find out what your.

Kelly Kennedy:

What your thing is, right.

Kelly Kennedy:

Whether you like a workout machine, a treadmill, running weights, whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find your thing that you can incorporate daily into your life, and it will.

Kelly Kennedy:

Will help you de stress and be able to handle those more challenging moments, consistent meals.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm guilty for this one, too.

Kelly Kennedy:

I am.

Kelly Kennedy:

I am a breakfast skipper.

Kelly Kennedy:

I love my coffees.

Kelly Kennedy:

I have coffee first thing in the morning.

Kelly Kennedy:

Love my coffees.

Kelly Kennedy:

Typically not a breakfast person, but, guys, don't skip lunch, don't skip supper.

Kelly Kennedy:

Make sure that you are taking the time to fill your body with nutrients.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I'm not going to tell you how to eat.

Kelly Kennedy:

That is not what show this is.

Kelly Kennedy:

But I am going to tell you that you do need to eat, and you do need to fuel your brain and your body with something.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so, while I am not a nutritionist, uh, I play one on tv.

Kelly Kennedy:

No, I'm kidding.

Kelly Kennedy:

While I'm not a nutritionist, what I will say to you is you absolutely, absolutely do need to eat, at least on a regular basis in order to keep everything functioning the way it needs to function.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, find ways to distance yourself from work.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to have an identity that isn't just our work, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I know, as entrepreneurs, as business owners, as high level business development specialists or executives of all types, we really pride ourselves on who we are at work, on the.

Kelly Kennedy:

What we bring to the world.

Kelly Kennedy:

And guys, absolutely, you're incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, you are all incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

I know if you're listening to the show, you're incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

You guys are exceptional at what you do.

Kelly Kennedy:

However, what you do is your job.

Kelly Kennedy:

You are also exceptional individuals.

Kelly Kennedy:

There was also things that used to be really great at that weren't work.

Kelly Kennedy:

You were great at sports, you were great at hobbies.

Kelly Kennedy:

You were great at a thousand other things.

Kelly Kennedy:

Remember that part of you and find a way to bring them back.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find a way to do the things that you used to be passionate about, and you will once again become passionate about them.

Kelly Kennedy:

Remember, you have to enjoy your life.

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to remember what life was like outside of work.

Kelly Kennedy:

And you have to dedicate at least a portion of your life to doing things that you love, that you enjoy, that will bring your passions back, that can help pull you out of burnout or prevent it right from the beginning.

Kelly Kennedy:

Remember, guys, what we've been talking about here in step two is just being proactive.

Kelly Kennedy:

Being proactive is the secret to not ending up in burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to recognize when you might be getting close to it.

Kelly Kennedy:

You have to incorporate things into your day to day life that will help you prevent it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

If you look at all of the people you aspire to be, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

And this is one of the things that I've really learned being on this show, because I talk to people I aspire to be all the time.

Kelly Kennedy:

I talk to exceptional entrepreneurs.

Kelly Kennedy:

I talk to people who've changed the world, who made millions of dollars.

Kelly Kennedy:

Every single one of them prioritizes themselves, prioritizes their mental health, prioritizes their fitness, prioritizes their families.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

Throughout all of the exceptional things they've done, throughout all of the success that they have achieved, the millions of dollars, what they realized was what they needed to do, above it all was look after themselves.

Kelly Kennedy:

Whether they found it out late, like many of us, or whether they realized it from the very beginning, it's something that is in common with all of them at some point.

Kelly Kennedy:

They all recognize the importance of looking after themselves, taking care of themselves, taking care of their family, taking care of what matters, which, at the end of the day, wasn't their positions, not as much as it is about who they are as people, about who they are individually, about their health, their mental health, their families, the things that matter.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to look after ourselves, and so being proactive is key.

Kelly Kennedy:

We have to find ways to incorporate these things into our lives.

Kelly Kennedy:

All right, this next step, step three, is about recovery.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

So this is.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm talking to my people who are like me, and you hit a wall, and you needed to find your way back.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

And I know that's lots of us.

Kelly Kennedy:

I actually.

Kelly Kennedy:

I would probably argue that almost everybody listening to this show either has experienced hitting the wall of burnout or is on their way there right now.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's the way it is.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's the way that us super high performance people are motivated and driven.

Kelly Kennedy:

So if it's you, and I'm getting you today, and you were like, kelly, I'm at the wall, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

I get it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I get it.

Kelly Kennedy:

I was there, like, two weeks ago.

Kelly Kennedy:

Like it.

Kelly Kennedy:

The thing is, we ride the line all the time.

Kelly Kennedy:

As high performance individuals, as executives, as business owners, as podcasters, as all these things we're doing, these incredible things.

Kelly Kennedy:

They have their toll on us, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

They have their toll.

Kelly Kennedy:

So it's really, really important that if we are hitting the wall, that we find a way out.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

Here are some of the ways that you can find your way back.

Kelly Kennedy:

Reach out for support.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

When I was hitting the wall, thank God, I have an amazing fiance, an incredible, incredible person who is very in tune with their mental health, who is very in tune, um, with themselves emotionally and is able to kind of help me, who's maybe not as in tune sometimes find my way back.

Kelly Kennedy:

And so don't be afraid to just say, you know what?

Kelly Kennedy:

Like, I'm really hitting a wall here.

Kelly Kennedy:

Here's some of the things I'm struggling with.

Kelly Kennedy:

And just have a conversation.

Kelly Kennedy:

Just put it all out on the line.

Kelly Kennedy:

Talk about the challenges.

Kelly Kennedy:

Talk about the struggles.

Kelly Kennedy:

Talk about your feelings.

Kelly Kennedy:

Talk about the anxiety.

Kelly Kennedy:

Get it all out on the table.

Kelly Kennedy:

You would be amazed at what, like a 1 hour or two hour conversation about some of the challenges you're facing with someone who's just willing to listen and hear you out will do for you.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is absolutely incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

So I'm not saying dump your life onto people.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you need a therapist, that's cool, too.

Kelly Kennedy:

But find somebody to talk to.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find somebody.

Kelly Kennedy:

Friends, family, colleagues, professionals, whatever.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find somebody who you can have a conversation about life's challenges with.

Kelly Kennedy:

Because guess what?

Kelly Kennedy:

Life is hard.

Kelly Kennedy:

Life is challenging.

Kelly Kennedy:

But we're all in it together.

Kelly Kennedy:

That's the amazing thing about life.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're the all human.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're all struggling together.

Kelly Kennedy:

Don't be afraid to be vulnerable.

Kelly Kennedy:

Don't be afraid to reach out for support.

Kelly Kennedy:

Manage your workload.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay.

Kelly Kennedy:

If we are hitting the wall, the first thing we need to do is obviously talk about it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Second thing we need to do is figure out how the heck do we reduce this load that is causing a struggle.

Kelly Kennedy:

So find the things that you can cut back on.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find the things that you can reduce.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find maybe the jobs and tasks that you can put on hold for a little while.

Kelly Kennedy:

Don't be afraid to take a step back.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I know this can be really hard for entrepreneurs.

Kelly Kennedy:

I got my both my hands way up because I hate taking steps back.

Kelly Kennedy:

But I do recognize that every once in a while, even I have to take a step back from things, take a breather, and realize that I can get back to it at any time.

Kelly Kennedy:

But right now, I have to look after me.

Kelly Kennedy:

So try to manage the workload.

Kelly Kennedy:

Narrow it anywhere possible until you feel normal again.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find what brings you joy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, we talked about this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find the thing.

Kelly Kennedy:

Remember when I told you I needed to get away?

Kelly Kennedy:

Well, I didn't tell you guys that.

Kelly Kennedy:

One of my passions in life is adventure.

Kelly Kennedy:

I absolutely love traveling.

Kelly Kennedy:

I love to just get away.

Kelly Kennedy:

I love it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Which is why in that moment, the only thing, the alarm bells were going off in my head, and the only thing I could think of was, I need to get out of here.

Kelly Kennedy:

I need to get away and do something fun, do something enjoyable.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, yeah, most of you would probably say going to Saskatoon and visiting family maybe not the funnest thing, but for me, it was incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

It was exactly what I needed.

Kelly Kennedy:

I love going to Newtown.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's where my fiance's family's from.

Kelly Kennedy:

I love going to Newtown and just having a good time.

Kelly Kennedy:

We stayed at a beautiful hotel.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you guys ever get a chance, go check out the Delta Bessborough Hotel in Saskatoon.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's, like, from:

Kelly Kennedy:

It's absolutely beautiful.

Kelly Kennedy:

We stayed there.

Kelly Kennedy:

We got to hang out.

Kelly Kennedy:

I got to hang out with my son and chill in the hot tub and just relax.

Kelly Kennedy:

Right?

Kelly Kennedy:

But for me, that's what I needed.

Kelly Kennedy:

I needed to just get away.

Kelly Kennedy:

That was my happy place.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find your happy place.

Kelly Kennedy:

Whether you're going hiking, whether you love painting, fishing.

Kelly Kennedy:

I'm a huge fishing fan, by the way.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, you know, one of the things I can recommend to you guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

Cause I'm a solid nerd.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you guys have been around this show, any length of time.

Kelly Kennedy:

You guys know, behind the scenes nerd.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I loved building RC planes and flying them when I was like a teenager.

Kelly Kennedy:

I still love doing that today.

Kelly Kennedy:

I haven't made time for it in two years.

Kelly Kennedy:

Need to make time for it.

Kelly Kennedy:

But the funny thing is, those things exist.

Kelly Kennedy:

The things you used to love doing, they still exist.

Kelly Kennedy:

If you were hitting the wall, find one of those things you used to love doing and go and do it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Go and do it.

Kelly Kennedy:

Figure out what it is.

Kelly Kennedy:

Make the time.

Kelly Kennedy:

Do things you love or used to love, and you 100% can find your way back, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find your way back.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find passion, find joy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Figure it out what makes you happy and go do as much of that as humanly possible.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is the way back.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

And it wouldn't be reasonable for me to do this without saying there is a step four.

Kelly Kennedy:

Step four is for my people who are experiencing burnout.

Kelly Kennedy:

And it's real serious, guys.

Kelly Kennedy:

You've really hit a wall.

Kelly Kennedy:

And maybe these other things, they are, they're too small.

Kelly Kennedy:

They're not enough to bring you back in this moment.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

In this particular case, I encourage you all to seek a professional help.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

Burnout can edge into depression.

Kelly Kennedy:

It really can.

Kelly Kennedy:

It can take you over the edge into something that is really, really hard to come back from, which is why we have to work very hard to prevent it in the first place.

Kelly Kennedy:

Figure out our escapes, right?

Kelly Kennedy:

Figure out how the heck we don't end up in deep burnout, because deep burnout can edge into depression.

Kelly Kennedy:

If this is, you, understand this, I don't care whether you're macho or you're the toughest person on planet Earth.

Kelly Kennedy:

Therapy is incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

It is healthy, it is good, and there's no shame in it.

Kelly Kennedy:

There is no shame in going to therapy.

Kelly Kennedy:

I have been to therapy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Many of my friends have been to therapy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Some of the most successful people I've ever met been in therapy.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

There is nothing wrong with going to therapy.

Kelly Kennedy:

And if you are in depression, I want you, please, please, please seek professional help.

Kelly Kennedy:

You are incredible.

Kelly Kennedy:

You are worth it.

Kelly Kennedy:

There is a way back, okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

Meditation can also help.

Kelly Kennedy:

Meditation can help.

Kelly Kennedy:

You would be amazed.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, you know, you're talking to somebody who frankly thought meditation was woo woo for the longest time.

Kelly Kennedy:

I think there's still a part of me that still struggles with meditation a little bit, but it can be incredibly, incredibly effective to just sit with your thoughts and try to get to the bottom of what is challenging you.

Kelly Kennedy:

Now, this doesn't mean sitting on the floor, necessarily, um, like a monk.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

Meditation can be going for a drive.

Kelly Kennedy:

Meditation can be a lot of things.

Kelly Kennedy:

It's what it means to you.

Kelly Kennedy:

But what it can be is just time to sit and think and get to the bottom of what you are struggling with.

Kelly Kennedy:

Find a way to get to the bottom of it.

Kelly Kennedy:

And, guys, if you are in dire straits, if I'm getting you today on your worst day, first off, thank you for listening to this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Um, I'm sorry for what you were going through.

Kelly Kennedy:

And I want you guys to know that if you were in Canada, I want you to text 988 immediately.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

If you are hopeless, I want you to text or call 988.

Kelly Kennedy:

That is the suicide hotline in Canada.

Kelly Kennedy:

And you can text it, call it 24 hours a day, and there will be somebody there to hear you out.

Kelly Kennedy:

There will be somebody there to understand you, who is trained to be able to help somebody like you in your scenario.

Kelly Kennedy:

Okay?

Kelly Kennedy:

So if I'm getting you on your worst day, guys, please remember this.

Kelly Kennedy:

Nine, eight, eight.

Kelly Kennedy:

Text or call 24 hours a day in Canada.

Kelly Kennedy:

There's somebody there to help you.

Kelly Kennedy:

I want to give some pretty big recognition today to prevention.com and Sharese Johnson.

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She's with Jade integrative counseling and wellness, and she was a contributor to most of this article that we talked about today.

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I think this is really important work.

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I think Burnout is happening more and more to many of us.

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We're very high performance, and I just wanted to give them recognition.

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Like I said, a lot of this information came directly from that website today.

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And so if you want to check it out, um, I found it on prevention.com.

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all right, guys.

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And before we wrap up today, I just want to give a little pitch to the coaching.

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Okay?

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Now, look, if you're in business development or your job in your company, whether you are the business owner, whether you're the business development manager, whether you're the marketing manager, whatever your job is, if your job has to do with growing the company.

Kelly Kennedy:

I want to chat with you guys today about my business development mastery program.

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Guys, I put together a program.

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It's called business development mastery.

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What it is designed to do is to help establish an extremely effective business development process for your company.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're going to go over your corporate goals.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're going to figure out how many meetings it's actually going to take to achieve them.

Kelly Kennedy:

We are going to review your marketing materials, get them up to par.

Kelly Kennedy:

We are going to look at your CRM systems and get them up to par.

Kelly Kennedy:

We're going to look at both your social media strategies and your personal strategies.

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And we are going to chat about the active marketing process.

Kelly Kennedy:

And when we slam all of these things together, we're going to create an effective business development process that you can take with you in your current venture, any new ventures, and far, far, far into the future.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, the business development mastery program will deliver an effective process for both you and your business that will pay off exponentially into the future.

Kelly Kennedy:

Guys, you can find that on my LinkedIn under amplify your impact or at Capitalbd ca.

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You guys can click the coaching button and from there follow the links.

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It will take you to a spot where you can book a free discovery call and I very, very much look forward to meeting you shoutouts this week Colin Harms, Deanna Keen Vaijayan Swami Nathan Nicholas Bork, Corey Rowe, Bassam Saeed, Stephanie McLean, Alan Staines, Ace Quercy, Ricardo Flores, Mac Mayle, Corey Seller, Jamar Jones, Karen Unland, Marty Forbes, Aman Kumar, Amirabas Murakorlu, Susan Paseka, Sean Neals, Saima Ashraf Amin Samji, Ken G.

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Louise McCarthy, Zach Rayani, Lori Weldon, Daveed Henriquez, Gabriel Puelo, Adam Kimmel, Chloe Brian Hayes, Tatsiana Zametalina, Don Osland and Stuart Muralski until next time.

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This has been the business development podcast and we will catch you on the flip side.

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This has been the business development podcast with Kelly Kennedy.

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His passion and his specialization is in customer relationship generation and business development.

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For more we invite you to the website at www.

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See you next time on the business development podcast.

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